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Two Batteries and different Profiles
08-11-2010, 08:47 PM
Post: #1
Two Batteries and different Profiles
Hi,

my problem is, that my laptop (HP TX2) has two different batteries with different sizes. If I don't use the alternative method to get the Battery ID there is only one profile. Since the capacity of these batteries is totally different it then gets completely inaccurate. But if I turn this option on, the notebook creates a new profile at every startup, even with the same battery. There are now 12 profiles although I only have 2 Batteries. Is there any possibility to have only two profiles for this two batteries? Maybe you could only use the full capacity to create a profile?
My profiles for the small battery for example have names like these:
NiM_36720_2232_3816
LIO_36720_2232_3816
LIO_36720_2333_3989
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08-12-2010, 05:29 PM
Post: #2
RE: Two Batteries and different Profiles
I have found that HP doesn't properly support the Unique ID value (as you've noticed) and most batteries don't even report (dis)charge rates. The alternate ID is a workaround for batteries that report non-unique ID values. The alternate ID uses three values that, according to specifications, aren't supposed to ever change.

The first part (NiM, LIO) indicates the battery type. I've never seen a NiMh laptop battery, at least not for years, so I'm surprised to see that. The next part is the battery's reported "Designed capacity", or the original capacity the battery was designed to hold (this value should never change). The last values are two warning level values, to help distinguish between batteries that are different but the same capacity. It appears that the HP is changing those two values.

I may need to change the way the alternate ID works to compensate for these types of issues, which, honestly, are due to the fact that the manufacturer is not providing a proper Unique ID. (I've found Dell to be the best, ASUS and HP are bad)

Another solution I may work out is the alternate battery ID would also include the battery port (main, secondary) that the battery is connected to. That would make it easy to distinguish between batteries.

In the meantime, I'm not sure what to tell you. The best course of action at this stage would be to disable statistical time remaining calculation (Preferences -> General). That'll use a raw (simple) calculation based on discharge rates, which, if not provided by the battery, will be estimated based on changes in the capacity remaining.
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08-12-2010, 10:50 PM
Post: #3
RE: Two Batteries and different Profiles
These 3 Values I posted were from 1(!) battery, which is LiIon, so I don't understand why there appeared Nim

Maybe you could integrate the option to choose which kind of differentiation between the batteries should be used. For me it would be best if it would simply differ the batteries by their maximum capacity, which is totally different.

But until you may provide this I'll try to follow your solution.

But it would be great if you could implement different differentiations between batteries.

Thank you for support =)
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